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From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER)
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Subject: Re: Re: Discrimination and Affirmative Action: Reply to Sykora
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Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 09:23:31 EDT
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> From jj:
> Tim, when will you stop using your own version of what
> people say instead of what they really say and mean.
> 
> You castigate Sykora, in the article 641.whuxl, for
> accepting rascism, without admiting that YOU conclude
> he's acepting racism, regardless of what he says
> and does.
> 
> You're welcome to say that Sykora's policies could
> lead to situations where racism is accepted, but
> it's just NOT OK to say to that Sykora supports
> rascism because of that, unless you have some
> proof that Sykora is suggesting policies 
> to support racism ON PURPOSE.
> 
> (ihnp4/allegra)!alice!jj

You are right to make the distinction between support of policies
*because* they are rascist and support of policies *regardless of* the
fact they are rascist.  Mr. Sykora's argument in support of 
"employers rights" is definitely the latter. But the exact same argument
was indeed used against the whole Civil Rights Movement and in arguments
that people had every right to force blacks to stay at the back of the bus,
not to let prominent black musicians eat in the very places they were
performing,etc. I find support for such discrimination a tacit support for
rascism.  It is yet another example which demonstrates that Libertarian ideology
or ideologues have no concern for the actual outcomes or fairness of
the policies they espouse. If rascism results, so be it according to Mr. Sykora.
I still find this view abhorrent.
Such acceptance of rascism and elitism is one of the things I find very
distasteful about certain Libertarian ideologues.
              tim sevener   whuxl!orb