Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site philabs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!linus!philabs!vip From: vip@philabs.UUCP (V. I. P.) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Propiganda, Sevener, Sykora, and MMT Message-ID: <350@philabs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Jun-85 22:06:19 EDT Article-I.D.: philabs.350 Posted: Wed Jun 5 22:06:19 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Jun-85 03:43:02 EDT References: <3750@alice.UUCP> <7800334@inmet.UUCP> <650@whuxl.UUCP> Reply-To: vip@philabs.UUCP (V. I. P.) Organization: Philips Labs, Briarcliff Manor, NY Lines: 22 Summary: Sorry to be such a snag, but if anyone is curious what kind of environment is created by libertarianism, I suggest they take a look at Haiti or, say, Guatemala. I am personally experienced with Haiti, so I will use it as an example here. What has happened in Haiti is exactly what's happening in New York under the Reagan/Koch administrations. There are basically only two classes, the very rich and the very poor. (Of course, the very rich are not necessary all that rich by American standards.) The rich prey on the poor, I have a friend there who has about 6 serveants, and multi-national companies, such as, Motorola, Xerox, General Foods, etc. chew them up and spit them out. I've seen peasants (that's what they call them) being beaten up in the street by bourgeois business men because they tried to sell them a box of Chicklets. Not too unlike the old robber baron days here in the United States, just on a smaller scale. If you are a libertarian (true libertarian) you are probably opposed to any kind of law that attempts to regulate your behavior. Once you visit a place like Haiti you will realize the dangers of this. Brian Day