Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttidcc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!zehntel!dual!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!cmcl2!philabs!ttidca!ttidcc!regard From: regard@ttidcc.UUCP (Adrienne Regard) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: personal defense Message-ID: <406@ttidcc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 9-May-85 16:48:56 EDT Article-I.D.: ttidcc.406 Posted: Thu May 9 16:48:56 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 03:35:34 EDT Organization: TTI, Santa Monica, CA. Lines: 40 >> Limits placed on the private ownership of guns is incompatible >> with the direct "concerns of the founding fathers". > I think this statement raises an important question. To what >extent is it desirable to guide the conduct of a society accord- >ing to principles laid down two centuries ago? Very good question. Does not invalidate the constitutional questions, of course, because someone somewhere has to determine: if (a) is better for us, is it worth it to change (b)? because of the legal ramifications, but certainly a point worth considering. VE day was only 40 years ago. The Nazis thought the were the chosen people. How many civilizations in this world today are above that egoism? The U.S.? I doubt it. At least the consideration that everyone may be armed requires the intelligent person to consider the responsiblities and necessities of being armed. If we were unarmable, the question might not come up, which might equate to a nation of sheep. I've a certain amount of faith that one day we will have grown beyond weapons to the point where handguns will be as quaint a prospect as cross- bows. Still, one is wise to keep crossbows available if one is likely to be attacked with crossbows. Given that we will outgrow our need for handguns (my proposition), I'd rather not set the precedent of altering the constitution, since that precedent can be called up in any other context. For those of you out there who think the NRA is a nasty, grossly wealthy organization, consider what a nasty, grossly wealthy organization the United Press might become if freedom of the press were threatened. NRA is strong and wealthy because a lot of people support their second amendment freedoms and put their money where their principles are. We all have principles that we would stand up for, don't we? It's no more filthy, corrupt or manipulative than any other large organization striving for certain concepts of legality and freedom. Course, it's not cleaner, less corrupt or non-manipulative, either. That's what organizations are like *sigh*.