Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!pesnta!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Congratulations to the NRA Message-ID: <251@kontron.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 15:56:33 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.251 Posted: Mon Jun 17 15:56:33 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Jun-85 04:21:35 EDT References: <484@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <321@spar.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 21 > > The hail of bullets was responsible for 16,575 suicides, 13,841 murders, > > 1,756 accidental deaths, 540 undetermined deaths and 276 killing by > > law enforcement agents. (In 1982) > > More than half of the firearms deaths were *suicides*? Interesting. > Can anyone else out there confirm this? > > Baba Consistently about 60% of firearms deaths are suicides, according to NRA's publications, and what little I have been able to find in supposedly objective publications. I suspect a great many of the "accidental" deaths are in fact covered up suicides; a great many "accidental" firearms deaths are while cleaning handguns, and it seems from the items I have read in the paper concerning these "accidents" that they are frequently white men over 60 --- the group that disproportionately commits suicide in our society. (Perhaps the grief of being "the oppressors" of all those blacks and women add up :-).) Incidentally, you have to be a *real* bozo to shoot yourself while cleaning a gun --- so bozo I suspect you would have to be drunk.