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From: shallit@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Jeff Shallit)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Congratulations to the NRA
Message-ID: <493@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 10:55:20 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jun 19 10:55:20 1985
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Summary: 

>> = Me
> = Don Steiny

>>    The hail of bullets was responsible for 16,575 suicides, 13,841 murders,
>> 1,756 accidental deaths, 540 undetermined deaths and 276 killing by
>> law enforcement agents. (In 1982)
>> 
>	Hmm, according to the Wall Street Journal, 3 times as many
>felons are killed by people defending themselves than are killed
>by the police.   Where is that number, hidden under "murders?" 

Let's be honest here.  It's not the "Wall Street Journal", that monolithic,
faceless organization, is it?  It's really a guest opinion article by
Don B. Kates, Jr. that you're quoting, right?

Don B. Kates, Jr. is a libertarian lawyer and pro-gun fanatic who 
frequently invents statistics out of the air to support his views.  If
you quote him, please identify the source of the statistics so we can
verify them ourselves.

Jeff Shallit