Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!flink From: flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: What is "capitalism"? (Explorations of "self-interest") Message-ID: <88@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Jun-85 16:38:12 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.88 Posted: Sun Jun 9 16:38:12 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Jun-85 00:48:33 EDT References: <298@spar.UUCP> <2380027@acf4.UUCP> Reply-To: flink@maryland.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 21 In article <2380027@acf4.UUCP> mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) writes: >>/* baba@spar.UUCP (Baba ROM DOS) / 4:28 pm Jun 7, 1985 */ >>You weren't talking about what people *want*. You were talking about >>what is "best" for people. I, for one, recognize a distinction between >>the two in human affairs. > >They are not different. X may have a set of goals, Z, that X wants to >achieve and a certain value X places on the achievement of each of the >goals in Z. X will achieve some subset of these goals. X would like to >achieve that subset of goals, Y, such that the sum of the values of the >goals in Y is maximal over all possible subsets of Z. Note that there may >be certain goals in Z that cannot possibly be in the same subset. The >achievement of Y is clearly what X wants, though he/she may not be aware >of it. This is also what is best for X. Not necessarily. What I want, even the rather abstract "achievement of Y", may not really be best for me. What is best for me is something I discover (not invent) through experience; and I may (and often do) discover that my goals were mistaken. -- Paul V. Torek, Iconbuster-In-Chief