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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory
Subject: Re: Re: What is "capitalism"?
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Date: Fri, 14-Jun-85 16:09:32 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jun 14 16:09:32 1985
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> Yes, Tony's major point was lost.  That point was that under democratic
> control one can have an impact on important decisions. In corporations
> run by an elite few owners and managers there is no impact.
>  
> There is also often more *freedom* under public ownership.  For example:
> shopping malls, since they are privately owned, have taken it as their
> right to deny the public the right of free speech and assembly in such
> malls.  Those advocating viewpoints which the mall's management disagrees
> with have been kicked out - "we own the mall, we can kick anybody out
> we choose, free speech or not".  On public streets there are no such
> restrictions - since they are public, the rights of free speech and
> assembly must be respected whether public officials like it or not.
> Personally I am *very* glad there are still many such places left, as well
> as public parks, public libraries, and public monuments and museums.
>  
>      "As I was walking I saw a sign up
>       the sign said "No Trespassing"
>       But the other side of the sign said Nothin'
>       That sign was made for you and me!"
>                 Woodrow Wilson Guthrie
>  
>        tim sevener  whuxl!orb

Mr. Sevener: I have decided that I have a right to free speech and assembly
in your residence at any time --- your private ownership is interfering
with my desire to hold protest demonstrations against the government.  Please
let me know when my crowd can come in to a place that you have paid money
to either rent or buy, and start using it any way we feel is fit.