Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hou2b.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!hou2b!halle From: halle@hou2b.UUCP (J.HALLE) Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball,net.puzzle Subject: Re: 5 RBIs in 1 at bat (Batting out of turn) Message-ID: <544@hou2b.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 14:07:47 EDT Article-I.D.: hou2b.544 Posted: Mon Jun 3 14:07:47 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Jun-85 00:38:27 EDT References: <662@spuxll.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 19 Xref: watmath net.sport.baseball:1355 net.puzzle:889 In the given example (Foster bats, but Carter who should bat is on deck), the given solution is wrong. The rules are quite explicit about what to do in this case. (Batting out of turn is the biggest section in the book.) If the appeal is made before a pitch is thrown to Carter, Foster is declared out, and all runners return to where they were before the last pitch to Foster. Carter is now up. After the pitch to Carter, Foster is legal. If they appeal now, Carter does not get to bat, since the legal batter is whoever follows Foster. (I'm not sure whether an out is now recorded.) If this is the first time they are up, I think the substitution rule might apply, but I think the scorecard takes precedence. I don't recall for sure. This leads to an interesting situation. Suppose there is a batter between Foster and Carter. Foster gets on, Carter gets on, a pitch is thrown to the batter after Carter. Now no appeal works, since the batter is legally following Carter, who is now legal after that pitch. Well, this guy walks, loading the bases. Who is up? Foster, the runner on third. The rule book even covers this situation.