Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-nermal!hagerman From: hagerman@nermal.DEC Newsgroups: net.rec.photo Subject: film sharpness Message-ID: <2807@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Jun-85 23:35:37 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.2807 Posted: Thu Jun 20 23:35:37 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 01:59:21 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 47 x Someone was wondering whether Kodachrome was really all that much more fine-grained than the other available color films. I went down to the local camera store and looked in a Kodak book called the Professional Dataguide (I'm too cheap to buy one), which lists film data for all of Kodaks color and black and white films. They break resolution (lines per milimeter) and graininess into groups and give the results by group, such as high, very high, etc. Without memorizing all the data, in the group with high resolution and extremely fine grain were Kodachrome 25 and 64, Kodacolor II (ASA 100: it must have been an edition from before the new color films), and Plus-X. Not included were any Ektachrome films. This kind of goes along with what you'd expect from technological and marketplace considerations: 1. Reversal films such as Ektachrome are inherently finer grained than the equivalent negative film, because in the negative film the image is made up of the larger grains of silver which pick up light better. In a reversal film, the image is made up of what's left after the large grains are removed in the reversal process, i.e. the smaller grains. 2. But market conditions are that most pictures are made with color negative film, therefore they put more effort into the negative films. An example is the new range of high performance print films. 3. Kodachrome has an advantage over Ektachrome because the emulsion is thinner. This is because the dye is added in during processing in the Kodachrome method. 4. Black and white film has the advantage of a very thin emulsion and no color filtering needed, so is finer grained for a given film speed. In regards to Mike Rosenlof's ranking of sharpness problems, anybody who has ever seen an 8x10 contact print knows that graininess is a big factor. One reason auto-focus cameras are so successful is because for the first time, the average snap-shooter now gets back prints that are in focus. Camera shake is a problem if you can get things focussed right. But back to reality, aren't the full-page spreads in Time, Sports Illustrated, etc, good enough? They're mostly taken with 35mm film, hand-held... Doug Hagerman