Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Evolving Religions (track 2) Message-ID: <1115@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 18:38:43 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1115 Posted: Wed Jun 19 18:38:43 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Jun-85 10:33:05 EDT References: <5437@cbscc.UUCP> <1096@pyuxd.UUCP> <300@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 20 >>> How does the requirement that a belief system have no deity (Humanism >>> isn't necessarily atheistic. I assume that you mean that Humanism may >>> have objective validity *if* it is atheistic) insure that it may have >>> objective validity? [DUBUC] >>By refraining from speculative notions about deities that cannot be proven, >>a belief system sticks to the real world of real people and things. That >>simple. [ROSEN] > Since you've decided that you will not accept any evidence on the matter, > Rich, this criticism carries no weight. The best you can justify on that > basis is agnosticism. [WINGATE] You're evading the original point in question. A belief system that DOES NOT engage in speculative presumptions of the nature I've described lends itself to stricter analysis (and less wishful thinking speculation) about the real world. -- "Ya dee apockety, rum fing f'doo. Ni, ni, ni, YOWWWWWWWWWW!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr