Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Comment about Uri Geller [Long and flame content] Message-ID: <513@psivax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 19:30:16 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.513 Posted: Mon Jun 17 19:30:16 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 04:38:41 EDT References: <470@nmtvax.UUCP> <1289@amdcad.UUCP> <1899@ut-sally.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 37 Xref: watmath net.religion:7168 net.philosophy:1967 Summary: In article <454@oakhill.UUCP> davet@oakhill.UUCP (Dave Trissel) writes: >[...net.physics deleted from newsgroup list...] > >This brings up another problem with the whole paranormal thing. You are >assuming that psychic power (or whatever is going on) is just turned on at >will. > >BTW, in the instance I mentioned the feeling that I was looking at a dead >person was so strong I had to throw the magazine away. I have never had >such a feeling before, it was as though I was looking at a rotting corpse. > But this is still a *single* incident, in order to be valid as evidence something must occur repeatedly. This does *not* necessarily assume voluntary control. Try the following experiment: every time you get a strong feeling about something, write it down(including date, and *exactly* what feeling you had), then check again a week later to see if it turned out as expected. Mark each success and failure. After about a year see what the ratio of successes to failures is. A ratio of about 0.5 would likely be significant, tho it would be good to peruse journal to check for patterns in the results before making any final conclusion.. > >I find it funny that some people feel so threatened about the possibility >of ESP-like stuff going on in the universe. Disturbs their world model I >guess. > I am not threatened by it, in fact I would like telepathy to be real, it could solve so many communication problems, but the evidence just is not there. I would also like to see a mechanism proposed for these things that does not violate matter/energy conservation. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen