Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: About Literalism Message-ID: <516@psivax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 21-Jun-85 19:09:04 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.516 Posted: Fri Jun 21 19:09:04 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Jun-85 04:07:03 EDT References: <15117@watmath.UUCP> <675@ihlpg.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 42 In article <675@ihlpg.UUCP> jeand@ihlpg.UUCP (Diaz) writes: >> Personally I do not find it either necessary or desirable to take >> every such statement as historical truth. There is a line in one of the >> traditional catechisms -- a Presbyterian one, I think -- which describes >> the Bible as "the only infallible rule of faith and practice", and I >> find that a more helpful approach than trying to take it as an infallible >> history or science book. > >My question here would be, if the author of the Bible is not reliable >in the fields of history or science, why should I think that he is >reliable in the fields of 'faith and practice'? Either he knows everything >and is infallible, and we should listen to him, or he is not infallible, >and I may as well live my life without listening to anyone else. > I find two problems with this reasoning. The first(minor) one is the assumtion that God is the *author* of the Bible in the human sense, rather than tha *inspiration* or *source* for a book written by many human authors. Second, and more important, is the matter of *subject* material of the book. That is the Bible is *about* faith and religous practice *not* science and history. Thus any science or history in it is essentially incedental to the message of the book. To place excessive detail about incedental matters in a book is a sure way of making the book boring and incomprehensible. Reading the Bible for science(say for instance Biology) is like reading a Psychology text to learn Chemistry! It is even worse, since an absolutely scientifically correct text would be unreadable by anyone not himself omniscient, since it would include statements of facts not yet even imagined by our best scientists. If *we* could not understand such a book, how could we excpect a pre-technological citizen of Israel to do so? It simply had to be written in the vernacular, that is in simple, non-technical terms, and I have yet to find a non-technical text on science that did not contain significant distortions of reality(even Scientific American has this problem from time to time). In short, it is a mistake to read the Bible, or any other book, for anything outside of its primary subject. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen