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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey)
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Subject: Re: inappropriate debating tactics
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Date: Tue, 4-Jun-85 00:07:14 EDT
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>>	A Nazi/anti-Semite/bigot of any variety feels there is some sort of
>>		difference between hatred for different groups (e.g.,
>>		his own should not be hated, other groups can and should
>>		be), though he cannot support evidence to support this
>>		conclusion.
>>	Question:  Is Samet's position ANY DIFFERENT from that of the bigot?

> I have answered this and other related questions thoroughly several times.

Yes, indeed you have.  By not giving direct answers to these questions, by
avoiding the very question I ask above, you have in fact given us all the
actual answer to the question.  You could have given a simple "yes" or "no"
to the above question followed by corroborative evidence.  Your unwillingness
(and apparent inability) to do so speaks for itself.

> R. Rosen chooses to ignore both my answers and  my counter charges and to
> reiterate the question endlessly.

What countercharges?  I have answered any pseudocharges you have brought
forth, mostly revolving around complaints about being intolerant of beliefs
involving intolerance.  I have also given detailed reasoning behind my
answers.  You are clearly no better than the rightwing Christians, or
even the Nazis whom you despise.  Your intolerance of other people is at
the bottom line UNJUSTIFIABLE.  The basis for your choosing to be
intolerant, your holy texts, are just as arbitrary basis for choosing to
be intolerant, and thus just as justifiable, as those of the rightwing
Christians and the Nazis they emulate.  And until you can show otherwise,
then the answer to the question above, is there any difference between you
and the other bigots, is a resounding NO.

> Rather than subject net readers to further repetition, I invite anyone who
> is genuinely interested in an answer to read what I have already written.

... and to see my point in vivid living color.
-- 
"There!  I've run rings 'round you logically!"
"Oh, intercourse the penguin!"			Rich Rosen    ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr