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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey)
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Subject: Re: inappropriate debating tactics
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Date: Tue, 4-Jun-85 22:52:23 EDT
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> However, there is definitely basis in halacha for
> fighting and hating those who campaign to corrupt Jewish morality. (This
> was discussed on the net a few months ago.) I prefer to point out how such
> people are illogical  and hypocritical rather than discussing hatred. Often
> this brings a hateful reaction from them, which exposes their true nature.
> [SAMET]

This is called, in psychology, an act of projection.  That's what's been done
to you, my friend, and your true nature has certainly been exposed.

> To clarify, I presented arguments from two points of view:
> 
> 1) From a Torah standpoint, condemnation of homosexuality is self-consistent,
> since the Torah regards this as evil. 

Mein Kampf is self-consistent.

> 2) Even from a non-Torah standpoint, the approach typified by R. Rosen is
> riddled with internal inconsistencies.

Such as?  You've repeatedly asserted that there ARE, but you've never shown
any.  I already addressed your complaints about being intolerant of
intolerants, and you (of course) had nothing to say in response.  Who's
riddled with what?

> I agree that the central issues have been clouded by irrelevant and unfactual
> charges.  Unfortunately, entropy is irreversible. 

Unfortunately, in many case, so is blind religious hatred.
-- 
"Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end."
						Rich Rosen   pyuxd!rlr