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From: ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless)
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Subject: Re: Re: Refuting Abominable Logic
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Date: Fri, 7-Jun-85 02:03:29 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jun  7 02:03:29 1985
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> > The Torah is not tolerant to murderers,incest,homosexuals,sabath
> > desecrators,idol worshipers etc.......

> Yes, Asher, it's our puny brains that decide what's right and wrong,
> what's true and false.  Whether those limited facilities decide that
> truth and right reside in orthodoxy or heterodoxy, they DO make that
> choice, including yours.  Pretending that God has made that choice for
> you doesn't wash; after all, you still had to decide whether and what
> God had decided for you.

G!d's word is VERY clear and very easy to understand, at least about
the basic points like morality.  You have the right to choose
not to follow the commandments.  You have the right not to believe
the commandments.  You have the right to not believe in G!d.  But
that doesn't change the commandments.

Several people on this net seem, to me at least, to think that truth
is determined by majority opinion.  That isn't the case.  The world
was no flatter in the 15th century, despite the opinions of the noted
men of the day.  Popular opinion doesn't change the truth declared
from the beginning.  If you don't believe in G!d, that doesn't change
the fact that G!d believes in you and wants YOU to keep his commandments.

Today, many people think homosexuality is right.  Some people in
Davis are trying to pass a homosexual rights ordinance.  Some of
the supporters call themselves Jewish.  None of this makes homosexual
activity correct in the eyes of our maker.  Arguing that lots of
people break the Sabbath and that the penalties for Sabbath violations
are severe is no excuse for homosexual activities either.  Just
because a large number of people, or even a majority of people,
break a commandment doesn't invalidate the commandment.