Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site warwick.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!ukc!warwick!alex From: alex@warwick.UUCP (Frank N Furter) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: The Problems With Science Fiction Today - a reply Message-ID: <199@snow.warwick.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Jun-85 00:08:34 EDT Article-I.D.: snow.199 Posted: Thu Jun 13 00:08:34 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Jun-85 08:25:19 EDT References: <2139@topaz.ARPA> <194@yetti.UUCP> <7982@ucbvax.ARPA> Reply-To: alex@warwick.UUCP (Frank N Furter) Organization: Computer Science, Warwick University, UK Lines: 24 Xpath: warwick snow snow ubu In article <7982@ucbvax.ARPA> mwm@ucbvax.UUCP (Mike (I'll be mellow when I'm dead) Meyer) writes: >In article <194@yetti.UUCP> oz@yetti.UUCP writes: >> Nonsense !! The often-hazy thing called "QUALITY" does exist, but you >> will not know it until it hits you right on the face. (For edification, >> refer to ZEN_AND_THE_ART_OF_MOTORCYCLE_MAINTENANCE by R. M. Pirsig) > >Yup, you're right - I'll know quailty when it hits me in the face. For >instance, any book that can (intentionally) keep me laughing as long as >NOTB did is definetly QUALITY. Or maybe quality in an artistic field is >subjective, not objective? Since you seem to think that it's objective, >why don't you let the rest of the world in on your measurement technics. Pirsig, in Zen&tAoMM, actually says that Quality is OUTSIDE of subjective and objective, it is a completely different mode. READ THIS BOOK. It really is very good. --Alex -- ... mcvax!ukc!warwick!asz