Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gitpyr.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!gitpyr!msj From: msj@gitpyr.UUCP (Mike St. Johns) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Discrepancies (Dune and Ringworld) Message-ID: <483@gitpyr.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 15:54:27 EDT Article-I.D.: gitpyr.483 Posted: Wed Jun 19 15:54:27 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Jun-85 02:09:30 EDT References: <2039@iddic.UUCP> Reply-To: msj@gitpyr.UUCP (Mike St. Johns) Distribution: na Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 27 Summary: In article <2039@iddic.UUCP> rick@iddic.UUCP (Rick Coates) writes: >Here are a couple of discrepancies (one large, one small) that I have >run across lately: > >Dune: > >Stillsuits wouldn't work. As I read it, the idea behind a stillsuit is >that it allows cooling by evaporation while trapping the moisture. >Thermodynamics does not allow this. Any cooling action gained by the >evaporation inside the suit would be offset by the condensation process. > >The net result would be a steam box that would be hot on a cold day with >any insolation at all. > > Sorry to disabuse you, but all Thermodynamics says is that you can't get something for nothing. If you recall, the description of the stillsuit includes some form of "pump" which operates as the wearer walks. This provides the necessary "work" to circulate fluid. A refrigerator works well just by circulating fluid. I haven't done any calculations, but on the surface a stillsuit should be feasible. Mike -- Mike St. Johns Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!msj StJohns@MIT-Multics.ARPA (404) 982-0035