Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles hp 2.0 03/25/85; site hpislb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!pesnta!hplabs!hpisla!jayj From: jayj@hpisla.UUCP (Jay Johannes) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: SF Poll. "Best" 59 books (so far). Film at 11. Message-ID: <69700001@hpislb.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 15:35:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpislb.69700001 Posted: Wed Jun 19 15:35:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 04:26:48 EDT References: <7301@watdaisy.UUCP> Organization: HP Instrument Systems Lab - Loveland, CO Lines: 24 Hold on just a second, here. I have been reading over the list and am wondering if everybody knows what "canonical" means? Webster gives definitions of orthodox and simplest form. I take the word in context to mean that the author wanted those stories that have set the standards for the current state of science fiction. That is, those stories that have broken new ground in either plot or style. I am not going to argue about the QUALITY of the stories that were listed. Most are very good examples of the best authors. However, many just cannot be classed as ground breaking. I especially question those stories that have been published within the last 12 months. How can a new story be changing directions already? A number of the books on the list can be traced back to earlier works sometimes even to works by the same author. One of the problems might be that some of the most innovative work is done in short story format. The novel, which requires much more extensive plot and character development, generally doesn't have the same freedom to work with new directions. I guess the offshoot is that I am not sure that asking for novels is the best way of exploring this. I finish up with an apology for not yet submitting my own list. The check is in the mail :-)