Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!edhall From: edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.social Subject: Re: Intelligence Message-ID: <2545@randvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Jun-85 11:49:24 EDT Article-I.D.: randvax.2545 Posted: Tue Jun 11 11:49:24 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Jun-85 04:27:19 EDT References: <456@ttidcc.UUCP> <457@ttidcc.UUCP> <1586@hao.UUCP> <238@rti-sel.UUCP> Reply-To: edhall@rand-unix.UUCP (Ed Hall) Followup-To: net.singles Distribution: net Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 34 Keywords: intelligence dating Xref: watmath net.singles:7329 net.social:667 Summary: More than brains It's been pointed out before, but it bears re-stating: what an IQ test measures is but a tiny fraction of a person's intellectual ability-- and sometimes isn't measuring intellect at all, but rather cultural awareness (white middle-class culture, of course). Read Steven Jay Gould's *The Mis-measure Of Man* for a good treatment of this and other attempts to find a simple quantifier for intelligence. It's interesting that measured intelligence correlates only moderately with future success, and that for IQ's above about 120, the correlation vanishes. There are people who measure under 75 on IQ tests who live normal lives, are articulate and independent, and really don't seem all that ``stupid'' to those around them. I'm certain that there are many different kinds of intelligence. Some of the most brilliant people I've known are in the social sciences or other such fields and are simply ``all thumbs'' where it comes to computers or other technology. No, it isn't just an emotional reaction--I've worked with these people, and their minds simply do not function very well in this area, despite their enormous abilities in other modes of thought. And, of course, I've met folks who were the opposite of this. And some of the most brilliantly creative people I've known seemed kinda average in areas we'd probably call ``intelligence''. So think about it: do you really want to limit yourself to a group of people just because they scored high on some test? ``Smarts'' come in lots of different shapes, and show themselves in lots of different ways. Granted, IQ tests *do* measure *something*, and a lot of the folks who do well on them seem ``smart'' to us. But I know from experience that this doesn't form an exclusive group--there are some things far more valuable than the ability to do well on a bunch of word- and sight-puzzles. -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall