Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site bu-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!bu-cs!root From: root@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: net.women,net.politics,net.social Subject: Re: The funny thing about the opponents of AA Message-ID: <433@bu-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Jun-85 19:57:35 EDT Article-I.D.: bu-cs.433 Posted: Thu Jun 20 19:57:35 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 07:07:22 EDT References: <482@ttidcc.UUCP>, <252@timeinc.UUCP> Organization: Boston Univ Comp. Sci. Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.women:6020 net.politics:9530 net.social:719 I can't resist relating the story of a good friend of mine (who was black): He had just graduated an ivy league college with straight A's, had two published books, one had gone on to paperback (if you don't know the publishing industry, that takes good sales.) Numerous published articles, guest columns in some of the most widely circulated magazines and newspapers in the country, need I go on? Hi boards, you bet, well spoken etc, you bet... He got into a good law school, a professor there took him aside to mention to him how much he resented his presence as a 'quota' student (which he wasn't except maybe in the statistics, certainly not as was meant by the callous remark: ie. that he hadn't earned his class place.) No, the prof didn't know what he was talking about, just flaming. UGGGH! I get embarrassed for humanity just thinking about it! I know, you'll say "he's not what we are talking about, it's the unqualified ones...". I'll say, most of you don't know *what* you are talking about, you're just trying to cover up cruelty with facile equity arguments. Qualifications are not carved in stone, I do hiring here and I have never hired two people for exactly the same reasons or criteria. It's a nice fantasy to think you hire only based on (whatever impersonal objective abstractions you think are 'fair'.) B******T, when you give a person a job you are doing two things 1) you are providing a person to your organization who should perform some task and 2) you are influencing that person and the world around them. Anyone who won't take (2) into account is too small minded to be working as management. Whaddya think, the only time you make 'social' decisions is when you walk into a voting booth? Grow up. -Barry Shein, Boston University