Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sphinx.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!bellcore!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!beth From: beth@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Beth Christy) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.social,net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: The Horrible thing nobody's had the guts to say about AA Message-ID: <686@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 20:08:35 EDT Article-I.D.: sphinx.686 Posted: Mon Jun 17 20:08:35 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 10:54:46 EDT Organization: U. Chicago - Computation Center Lines: 31 Xref: linus net.politics:8892 net.social:667 net.women:5540 net.flame:9806 From: seifert@hammer.UUCP (Snoopy), Message-ID: <1325@hammer.UUCP>: >In article <544@utai.UUCP> gkloker@utai.UUCP (Geoff Loker) writes: >>In article <278@looking.UUCP> brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) writes: >>>The one thing people haven't had the guts to say is that quite simply, >>>51% of the most qualified engineers and computer scientists are not women. > >>Allow me to suggest at least one reason why there are more qualified men >>than women in engineering (if not other 'technical' fields): > >The "Lady Godiva Day" sounds like standard college foolishness. >If you don't want to be around college foolishness, don't go >to college. I trust you forgot the ":-)" Snoopy. Not only does this sound amazingly close to "if you don't want to be hassled, don't go where men might hassle you", it also is extremely unhelpful advice to someone who is explaining "why there are more qualified men than women in engineering", and who wishes to rectify that. I'd say a ":-)" was definitely in order here. >Snoopy (one engineer who isn't a sexist slimeball) >tektronix!hammer!seifert > >(just a slimeball) Only if you disagree with the above. -- --JB All we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.