Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site amdahl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!amdahl!ems From: ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Space propulsion Message-ID: <1684@amdahl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 18:13:12 EDT Article-I.D.: amdahl.1684 Posted: Mon Jun 17 18:13:12 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Jun-85 03:52:15 EDT References: <2272@mordor.UUCP> Organization: Circle C Shellfish Ranch, Shores-of-the-Pacific, Ca Lines: 33 > From: FIRTH@TL-20B.ARPA > > Here is a short list of ideas for space propulsion systems > that don't rely on taking stuff along and throwing it out > the back. They range from the serious to the silly, and they > are all based on recollections of other people's work. > Sigh, this must be my day for being dense. > > (5) Gravitic propulsion. This one is really way out. Currently, we have > absolutely no idea how to interact with a gravity field in any > controlled manner. The interaction must be possible - inded, Hawking > radiation is created by the breakdown of the vacuum under intense > gravitic stress - but we lack an adequate theory. Also, it's not Who was Hawkin and what is this radiation? How can a vacuum breakdown? It is a trace of something in the vacuum, or do you really mean that the empty space itself breaks down? > clear what the energy flux would be. If you believe Mach's principle, > then a ship could use the entire mass of the universe to power a > gravity drive. > Who is Mach, and what is his principle? Did I sleep through the wrong physics lecture or something? None of these names is familiar to me (unless Mach also is the guy who gave us mach numbers ... ) -- E. Michael Smith ...!{hplabs,ihnp4,amd,nsc}!amdahl!ems This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything. (Including but not limited to: typos, spelling, diction, logic, and nuclear war)