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From: nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken)
Newsgroups: net.sport
Subject: Re: British Soccer Teams Banned!
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Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 10:06:18 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jun 19 10:06:18 1985
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>>7.  As the match begins Juventus supporters in Liverpool colours bait
>>the authorities (Juventus).
>>
>Where did you hear about this?  I have not followed the incident closely,
>and I therefore cannot claim that what you are saying is not true, but I have
>a genuine hard time believing you are going to see Italian fans dress up in
>Liverpool colours, mingle with the Liverpool crowd (speaking English with an
>english accent?) to start a fight with the people they usually sit with
>during the regular season games, just in order to get the Liverpool fans
>in trouble (who sure don't need help usually).

The Juventus fans picked up the colour off injured Liverpool supporters
in the Juventus end during the riots.  This was initially reported on
BBC-1 by Neil McFarlane, the UK Minister for Sport.

It is ironic, but Liverpool have little to no history of fan trouble,
but it has adversely affected other English teams.

>I think it's a shame that the English teams must be punished for the
>irresponsible behaviour of their fans.  At the same time, it is not the
>first time if I recall correctly (Liverpool-Bayern in Paris a few years ago?)
>that Liverpool fans act this way.  How much is rumor and how much is truth
>then in the provocation story you are relating?

One:  The trouble was between Leeds United and Bayern in Paris, about 10
years ago.  Leeds have not been in Europe since.  The most troublesome
English teams in Europe recently have been Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester
United.  The most troublesome teams in England have been Chelsea, Leeds,
and Derby.  (Three years ago, rioting Derby fans cost the opponent
a chance at promotion when the match had to be abandoned!)  Chelsea were
on the verge of Europe this year, and there was talk that the English
FA would not allow them to play.

-- 
James C Armstrong, Jnr.   ihnp4!abnji!nyssa

I have not come as your prisoner, Davros, but as your executioner.