Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxa.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxa!wetcw From: wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: Re: "Winning at all costs" Message-ID: <1277@pyuxa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Jun-85 08:52:10 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxa.1277 Posted: Fri Jun 14 08:52:10 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 06:38:58 EDT References: <1097@ihuxn.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 51 I would have to agree that "win at all cost" is fine for a pro team, however, in many situations in amateur sports, this should be discouraged. I have been coaching baseball for 8 years now and have seen both sides of the coin. We just finished a season which had some rather bizzare scores. The team I am coaching is what we call an instructional "Cap League". It is made up of kids form 7 to 10. There are 8 teams in the league. Three of the teams happened to get a large proportion of 7 and 8 year olds. They had a tough season. One of the teams did not win one game. When we played the winless team, I would let our regulars start the game. The first inning would be a disaster. Then, I would send all of the regulars to the far reaches of the outfield where they could not be a factor in any plays (they griped but they went anyway). (Oh, all the kids played, in the field and at bat. Sure looked strange with 7 or 8 outfielders). Our less than average players then made up the infield. Since the other theam had trouble getting the ball out of the innfield, the chances of errors on our part were pretty good. As a result of all of this chicanery, the other team was able to score runs, and in the process, feel a little better about themselves. They looked forward to playing our team as it made the game fun, as it should be for kids. It further, helped the less talented kids on our team by getting them into the action in a big way and they felt better about themselves. On the other side of the coin in our league, there was one team that was a win at all cost team. It was the coaches on this team who were into this sort of thing. They practiced four times as much as the rest of us and generally made fools of themselves. They were even bragging that they had beat the hapless team by 39 to 3. This is not the kind of thing that should be done at the level we are at. Winning for winning sake is something that must be looked at in degrees of sportsmanship. As far as the pro's are concerned, that's their job, short of maiming the other players with a cheap shot. (see Pete Rose and a few others in football and basketball.) When your down at the level of play where I coach, fundamentals and fun are the game. Even the fundamentals should be introduced in stages. You do not teach an 8 year old to slide into second, spikes high (the twit coach for the bad team was teaching this sort of thing). You have to concentrated on the most basic areas of the sport. As time goes by, you can begin to introduce those parts of the sport that enhance the winning edge. In the meantime, it is important that all of the kids on all of the teams learn to have fun playing a game, not that it is a job or effort that will turn many of them off. T. C. Wheeler