Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!cjbiggin From: cjbiggin@watmath.UUCP (Colin Biggin) Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: Re: disposable cast? Message-ID: <15099@watmath.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 18:45:16 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.15099 Posted: Mon Jun 17 18:45:16 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 04:08:22 EDT References: <1802@ut-ngp.UUCP> <257@azure.UUCP> <3242@dartvax.UUCP> Reply-To: cjbiggin@watmath.UUCP (Colin Biggin) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 51 Chris Andersen writes: >> In other words, are Spock, Kirk, McCoy, etc., really THAT essential to the >> nebulous being known as "Star Trek"? >> Chris Andersen Peter Merchant responds: >Well, everyone has their own definition of "Star Trek." By my definition, >the stories are about Jim Kirk and his buddies. Thus, with no Jim Kirk, >the show kind of falls apart. Kind of like James Bond without James Bond. > >... I think Spock could disappear ... At least, that's what I think... > Peter Merchant I have to disagree... My definition of "Star Trek" is the *universe* or the setting of the show. Your analogy with James Bond is not applicable... Star Trek is NOT the Jim Kirk show... I agree with you that the show does revolve around Jim Kirk and his buddies but I don't think that this is the only criteria on which it should be based. As I have stated in previous postings, I think a show could be recreated with totally new characters and new stories. You said that you think Spock could disappear. If anything, Spock is more essential to the series than Kirk is (Spock was an officer on board the Enterprise before Kirk was reading StarFleet manuals). One of the most notable things about Star Trek (especially when it was first released) was the idea of an alien working with humans. NBC was totally against the idea of Spock during the first couple of episodes and only overwhelming, positive response to the character prevented them from telling Gene Roddenberry to axe him... I don't know about the rest of the readers but I am not to happy about the rumours of Eddie Murphy being in the next movie. In my mind, this only detracts (ridicules ??) Star Trek. One of the many good points about the show is that it didn't have to rely on "hollywood" gimmicks such as big name stars but relied on believability, interesting stories, and of course, its small but loyal number of fans... This latest crap coming out of Paramount reeks of big time studio overdoing a good thing... Well, that's what I think (for what it's worth) !!! -- cheers, Colin Biggin Math Faculty Computing Facility University of Waterloo "I woke up, blinked my eyes, and it was two hours later !!!"