Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site weitek.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!spar!turtlevax!weitek!robertp From: robertp@weitek.UUCP (Robert Plamondon) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Discrimination and Affirmative Action Message-ID: <205@weitek.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 16:52:14 EDT Article-I.D.: weitek.205 Posted: Mon Jun 3 16:52:14 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Jun-85 05:36:22 EDT References: <566@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <197@weitek.UUCP> <557@cybvax0.UUCP> Organization: Weitek Corp. Sunnyvale Ca. Lines: 29 >In article <197@weitek.UUCP> robertp@weitek.UUCP (Robert Plamondon) writes: >> >>Well, the Irish and the Jews have pretty much overcome prejudices against >>them without government aid. I'm always irritated by the presumption that >>today's minorities are too incompetent to do the same. In article <557@cybvax0.UUCP>, mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes: > > Well, I'm irritated by your presumption that new minorities should have to > be initiated by running a gauntlet of prejudice and discrimination. > > Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh *WHAT* new minorities?? Have Martians landed or something? Every minority that has been mentioned in net.women recently has existed for hundreds or thousands of years. For that matter, what makes you think that these hypothetical new minorities *WILL* automatically be subjected to prejudice and discrimination? Things *ARE* getting better, you know. Race riots and lynchings are getting pretty rare, women are getting better jobs and even a little respect, and all. It's not a matter of "dues" at all. It's just that conditions have improved to a point that counter-bigotry seems extreme. -- -- Robert Plamondon {ucbvax!dual!turtlevax,ihnp4!resonex}!weitek!robertp