Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekecs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!orca!tekecs!pauls From: pauls@tekecs.UUCP (Paul Sweazey) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Now is the time for all good men... Message-ID: <5395@tekecs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 02:23:34 EDT Article-I.D.: tekecs.5395 Posted: Mon Jun 3 02:23:34 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Jun-85 08:32:20 EDT References: <738@oddjob.UUCP> <367@h-sc1.UUCP> <5363@tekecs.UUCP> <269@spar.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 34 > >> No, we are NOT men. We are people.. -- Marie > > > >The point is that the above "implication" disappears. "Man" no longer > >implies "male". It implies "human". It would be just as reasonable to > >eliminate the word "man" from the language and use "woman" to refer to any > >member of the human race. -- Paul Sweazey > > Is that so? Let's look at the two proposals more deeply... > > MALE FEMALE GENERIC > > 1) man woman person > 2) ??? woman man What is being proposed is more like... MALE FEMALE GENERIC 1) man woman person 3) male female man 4) male female woman Number 4 doesn't preserve and universalize phrases like, "All men are created equal", but is otherwise just as acceptable. Think of #3 as similar to the way a group of females sometimes refer to themselves as "guys". > AND HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO GET PEOPLE TO USE IT???? I don't myself believe there is any chance of the proposal being put into practice. Males won't want to share "man" and females will feel it denies their unique identity. I just believe the idea is elegant. Paul Sweazey