Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site timeinc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!bellcore!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!timeinc!greenber From: greenber@timeinc.UUCP (Ross M. Greenberg) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: ``they'' vs *US* Message-ID: <209@timeinc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 16:33:24 EDT Article-I.D.: timeinc.209 Posted: Fri May 31 16:33:24 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Jun-85 09:43:39 EDT Reply-To: greenber@timeinc.UUCP (Ross M. Greenberg) Organization: Time, Inc. - New York Lines: 50 In article <773@rayssd.UUCP> hxe@rayssd.UUCP (Heather Emanuel) writes: > >2. Not that I ever want to discuss this again, but the Big Dan's gang > rape case in New Bedford Massachusetts, in which a woman was raped > by 4 men and "fondled" by 2 more for two hours in a bar, surrounded > by a crowd of cheering onlookers, was a hotbed of "what was she > doing in that bar in the first place?" crap. In fact, there were > marches where thousands of people marched *in support* of the > *rapists*!!!!! The men were convicted, but given reduced sentences > due, I'm sure, to the public pressure. That case was two years > ago, well within your ten-year time limit. >-- >--Heather Emanuel {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, ccice5} rayssd!hxe Heather, from what I recall of the case, it was proven during the court hearing that, although she was raped by either one or two men (and these were the men who were convicted), there was no "cheering" going on, and that this was just a sensationalist story that the victim first told that was immediately picked up by our trustworthy media. I really would rather not get into this again, but please get your facts straight. Any rape is bad enough, but the New Bedford one raised two many raw nerves due to each "side" in the net.women argument choosing to believe their own facts. Additionally the parade was because the people in the community felt that this was an issue of ethic prejudice (being a mostly Portugeese township, and the women being American). They were marching because they felt that the men were going to be railroaded due to their nationality and ethnic backround. As for a jury deciding to almost let a rapist off: What do you suggest as a better alternative than twelve people deciding the rapists fate? The victim? She might be a little biased. The jurors have their own biases too, but that is what jury trials are all about: being tried by a small segment of society. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross M. Greenberg @ Time Inc, New York --------->{ihnp4 | vax135}!timeinc!greenber<--------- I highly doubt that Time Inc. they would make me their spokesperson. ------ "There's something wrong in the world. There's always been. Something no one has ever named or explained" --- Francisco d'Anconia