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From: zubbie@ihlpa.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Evidence?
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Date: Thu, 6-Jun-85 13:06:29 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jun  6 13:06:29 1985
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> 
> What I have been saying is that the feminist side appear to be
> *certain* that clothing has *no* *effect* on the likelihood of rape,
> yet they appear to have no evidence sufficient to back up such
> certainty.
> 
> When feminists are asked how they know, they usually make some reply
> about the motives of rapists in using that statement, or they question
> the motives and morality of the questioner.  On the occasions that I've
> actually seen evidence given, it has been inadequate evidence.
> 
> -- 
> 	David Canzi
> 
*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***

There is no real argument that choice of clothing may possibly contribute
to inciting a rape the argument is that it should not matter what anyone
wears because there is no train of logic which can be followed which
can show that rape was either necessary. 

In other words my right to dress as I feel and to enjoy my life as I
see fit is no writ to anyone to rape me and I refuse to sit back
and let anyone from someone on this net to a judge in a coutroom
validate a rape as inevitable because of the manner of dress of the
victim,
The motives of the rapist and his appolgists are quite obvious. If
sex is allowed as a reason for rape AND if manner or style of dress
can be shown to  arouse sexual drives well then it is obvious that

	A) The woman was  **ASKING FOR IT **


	B) The poor guy just couldn't help himself because the
		woman was dressed in a manner which aroused him
		to a point beyond hid rational ability to control
		himself.

	C) Since the poor guy is obviously not mentally stable
		because he cant control himself we should feel
		compassion for him and at worst lock him in a 
		funny farm for life but never **NEVER** be willing
		to admit that rape is a capital crime for which
		even the death penealty is too soft.


I strongly support making rape punishable by :

	1st offense : life imprisonment

	2nd offense : death preferably by "cruel and unusual means"


jeanette l. zobjeck
ihnp4!ihlpa!zubbie


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