Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Why men worry about being falsely accused Message-ID: <2282@sun.uucp> Date: Fri, 7-Jun-85 05:31:11 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.2282 Posted: Fri Jun 7 05:31:11 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Jun-85 02:21:25 EDT References: <809@mtgzz.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 46 > I agree, rape is a crime of violence, regardless of motive. > However, many people are extremely angry about rape as an issue > and an event. Angry people call for extreme measures - long sentances, > the death penalty, castration, etc. Angry people lash out in > a broad sweep at all kinds of supposed "causes" of rape, including > pornography. Finally, angry people call for ways to make rape convictions > easier, to ease off on the victim, to allow the evidence to be > weaker for a conviction. It is not uncommon for the psychological *cause* of rape to be anger. The rapist is *actually* angry at some woman in his past (probably mom), and takes it out on a random passerby, or one who looks like her. It is unreasonable to expect a raped woman to not be angry at the anger dumped unjustifiably on her by some man who didn't have the balls to dump it where it belonged: on (probably) mom. Men don't grow up with enough disrespect for women in general to commit rape, in a vacuum you know. There have to be reasons for his disrespect. 1) Mom 2) Society A) Peers (other men) B) others ( women) By the time he rapes, it's pretty late to fix his relationship with mom, if that was the cause, and is a long slow psychotheraputic process not often available to your average incarcerated rapist (may we offload discussions of incarceration vs rehabilitation into net.politics.theory?) I believe other postings have indicated that there is sufficient societal reinforcement of the worthlessness of women on the whole that it doesn't take much peer exposure for a man with any tendencies to disrespect mom to fall over the brink into disrespect for women in general, and thence into disrespect of any given example thereof, and thence into rape. But what do I know? having neither raped nor been raped? I still say patriarchy is the problem. And, no, matriarchy is not the solution. Why was it ERA didn't pass? Sunny -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)