Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site gloria.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!rocksanne!sunybcs!gloria!colonel From: colonel@gloria.UUCP (Col. G. L. Sicherman) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: being proud Message-ID: <795@gloria.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Jun-85 14:31:04 EDT Article-I.D.: gloria.795 Posted: Wed Jun 5 14:31:04 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Jun-85 22:19:57 EDT References: <233@spar.UUCP> <754@gloria.UUCP> <364@h-sc1.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: SUNY-Buffalo Computer Sci. Lines: 25 ["Pride goeth before destruction." --from a popular book] > > According to Lao-Tzu, a workman who is proud of his accomplishments > > will never amount to much. > > Oh, then I suppose it must be so. Really, what does this have to do > with anything? Do you have anything to back this up? Did he? I see > nothing wrong with being proud of what one has accomplished. I also > see nothing wrong with desiring peer approval. It's simply a form of > reward, internalized. In fact, I can think of many cases where pride > is the only reward one receives for some accomplishment, in which case > it would almost certainly foster learning. I can also think of cases > where peer approval is the only reward one receives for some behavior, > in which the behavior is highly undesirable (vandalism is one). Internalized! Imagined rather. The point of the quotation is that pride in your accomplishments (1) serves as a phony subsitute for a real reward, and (2) distracts you from the work you are to do _now._ Peer approval is altogether different. If people are so pleased with your works that they invite you to dinner, you don't need any pride-- better discard it! -- Col. G. L. Sicherman ...{rocksvax|decvax}!sunybcs!colonel