Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ginger From: ginger@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ginger Grover) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Complimenting Strangers Message-ID: <2@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Jun-85 21:05:40 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.2 Posted: Wed Jun 12 21:05:40 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Jun-85 05:36:54 EDT Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 45 >I don't want to make her feel uncomfortable having this >strange guy coming up to her. Sorry, but you would. Women learn the hard way that *all* men are suspect, even the ones they know. ******** FLAME ON (general - not directed at the above referenced author) ******** There's been a lot of garbage here lately about how some men feel insulted that some women tend to lump all men together as potential rapists, that women are being sexist or rabidly feminist, etc. They say it isn't fair. Well, RAPE isn't fair. You can recover from a bruised ego; you DO NOT recover from the atrocity of rape. EVER. Can't you guys understand that women *MUST* make such generalizations? It is literally a matter of life and death, and such considerations as whether a guy is going to feel insulted by a woman's wariness are not a priority, except to the degree that it might make him inclined to attack her for the "insult". It's a no-win situation for everyone, but some women (rightly or wrongly) do tend to feel they have a helluva lot more at stake. Listening to self-centered petulant complaints that it's not fair for women to be suspicious of *all* men can be as upsetting as the verbal attack Ellen suffered. Until enough men realize that they have just as much at stake as women do in puting an end to rape, and make up their minds to DO something about it, nothing will change. There is little that women, by themselves, can do about the prevalence of rape; we need men to help us. Are you going to refuse to help us because you feel insulted at being considered a potential rapist "just because you're a man"? How much more would you feel insulted if you were made to feel like a hunted animal? What are YOU going to do right now, today, to end the Reign of Terror? ********* FLAME OFF ********* Ginger ihnp4!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ginger (within screaming distance of the Green River . . . . . ) The above opinions are my own; I no longer give a damn whether my employer sanctions them.