Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!pesnta!amd!amdcad!decwrl!sun!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Women vs. women in the workplace Message-ID: <2302@sun.uucp> Date: Fri, 14-Jun-85 03:12:32 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.2302 Posted: Fri Jun 14 03:12:32 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Jun-85 08:29:49 EDT References: <1598@amdcad.UUCP> <872@bunker.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 30 > > I've seen a great deal about changing men's attitudes, but what about > > changing women's attitudes. Some of the worst experiences a woman > > can have on the job or at a university may be because of other > > (non-feminist) women. Examples: > > > Let's not forget the "queen bee" syndrome, when an established woman > both refuses to mentor and actively holds back other, younger women > on their way up. In doing so, she is perpetuating the very situation > she most likely had to fight on HER way up. I recall a conversation with > a co-worker (also female) about a prospective new hire to our group, also > a woman. My co-worker said "I hope she doesn't get it--we have enough > girls around here already". I was appalled--I was hired after she was, > and now wonder if perhaps the other women already in the group felt that > way about ME. It's pretty discouraging when you consider the good that > could be accomplished by more experienced women in the workplace helping > their less-experienced peers rather than hindering them. > > > > > Linda Seltzer > > Mary Shurtleff As long as women perceive that they can only have power through the men above them, they will remain in competition with each other for the favor of those men. Only when women can perceive of having their own power can they stop competing among themselves. Sunny -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)