Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Rape and Ugly Male Attitudes Message-ID: <330@spar.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Jun-85 12:02:24 EDT Article-I.D.: spar.330 Posted: Fri Jun 14 12:02:24 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 05:36:43 EDT References: <187@cuuxa.UUCP> <834@mnetor.UUCP> <2916@sdcc3.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Distribution: net Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 42 >SOPHIE, >You know that a lot of women are asking for it. I mean look during the >summer, tight shorts, no bras, big brown nipples showing. SHEEEEEIT. >(at least in california) > >Most of the time, the woman is unconsciously asking to be raped. >She takes no precautions, ie. walks alone in the night, and wears >provocative clothing. > >Larry G. Kim You really believe that, don't you? You really believe that if YOU get turned on by a woman, then SHE requires sexual service. Suppose a person who thinks this way decides to ACT on such a belief? Some do. You'll typically encounter such sentiments as these wherever male peer group attitudes predominate. Are you then not surprised when some feminists blame men as a group for rape, especially considering how many men take part in the preservation of this point of view? Some of the ideas implicit in Larry's article: *Men who wear nothing but a pair of shorts are dressing comfortably, whereas women wearing the same, plus a T-shirt, are `asking for it'. *A woman can always, and must, find an escort when she needs one; otherwise she obviously needs sexual service from a man. ...presuppose that the purpose of a woman's body is the sexual amusement of men, and that women must constantly live with this `fact of life'. Most guys will casually brush all this off be remarking "Well, that's just the way it is -- you can't do anything about it". But you can. Starting off in your own mental backyard. -michael