Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site peora.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!peora!jer From: jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Now is the time for all good men... Message-ID: <1085@peora.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 11:00:13 EDT Article-I.D.: peora.1085 Posted: Mon Jun 17 11:00:13 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Jun-85 08:09:53 EDT References: <742@oddjob.UUCP> <388@mtxinu.UUCP> <1041@peora.UUCP> <647@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <1054@peora.UUCP> <326@spar.UUCP> Organization: Perkin-Elmer SDC, Orlando, Fl. Lines: 37 Unfortunately, I just don't have time to read net.women regularly, and thus can only respond to your comments on my posting cursorily. I have no objections to your making changes to the English language through conventional means. The usage you are describing is a colloquial usage; and that is fine. Good colloquial usages eventually migrate into the language in a permanent sense. > YOU are the only turkey I know who talks of rewriting poetry! Now, if you were not so emotionally biased as your use of the word "turkey" indicates you are, you might have read my argument more thorougly, and seen that what I am complaining about is a SPECIFIC instance in which a large book of poetry (Lutheran hymns) were all changed so that every instance of sexist language was retroactively changed. This is what I am objecting to. As I also pointed out in my posting, I myself carefully avoid using "sexist" language in contexts where I feel it has significance. > If you insist on flaming in net.women, at least flame at what has > been proposed, rather than what is in your imagination. I must also object to this on two accounts. The first is your patently straw-man argument that my reasoning was based on my "imagination", something it clearly was not, something you should have known if you read the article in an unbiased manner. The second is that my posting was not a "flame"; I posted a "flame" in net.flame, and then, because of attacks from people such as Sophie, who resorted to tactics such as name-calling, posted a more cogent discussion of the problems of sexist language in here. -- Full-Name: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642 "Gnyx gb gur fhayvtug, pnyyre..."