Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!randvax!edhall From: edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Women vs. women in the workplace Message-ID: <2559@randvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 18:28:52 EDT Article-I.D.: randvax.2559 Posted: Wed Jun 19 18:28:52 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Jun-85 02:34:10 EDT References: <1598@amdcad.UUCP> <872@bunker.UUCP> <2302@sun.uucp> Reply-To: edhall@rand-unix.UUCP (Ed Hall) Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 25 Summary: > As long as women perceive that they can only have power through the men > above them, they will remain in competition with each other for the favor > of those men. Only when women can perceive of having their own power can > they stop competing among themselves. > > Sunny > -- > {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) I'd agree, Sunny, but only if you substitute ``people'' for both ``men'' and ``women''. Men play these same end-justifies-the-means competitive games with each other, though in a sexist environment women make easier targets. Some women are getting just as good at playing these games-- and often find their sisters to be easy targets, too. The solution is not to be found in making women just as powerful as men, for the power some men have is an inhuman power, dehumanizing the controller and the controllee alike. It saddens me to see women struggling to be just like men. The nature of patriarchal power is the same no matter which sex has the reins--I hardly see any gain in women learning to perpetuate it. And I think, Sunny, that you would agree with me on this. -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall