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From: chaiklin@umn-cs.UUCP (Seth Chaiklin)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Men: you are not individuals
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Date: Sat, 8-Jun-85 19:18:48 EDT
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Posted: Sat Jun  8 19:18:48 1985
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Summary: 

The recent exchange between David London and Jeff Sontag about
individuality in society has been very interesting.  I want to
add a point for consideration.

Both writers assert that ideally we should treat people as 
individuals, though David London adds an important qualification 
about the current conditions:

>Secondly, I agree that people are individuals, and must be treated as such.
>My point is that our society doesn't treat anyone as an individual (including
>you), and this must be recognized - you can't go around saying "I AM an 
>individual", because, in this society, you're not; what you can do is to
>start treating everyone as an individual, teach your kids to do the same,
>etc.. 

Mr. London seems to think that eventually we could achieve the ideal.
I think the fact of the matter is that we are embedded in a
social system, that we rely on other people, and if we spent
more time acting for the welfare of all, the welfare of
individuals would accrue.