Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!pesnta!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: clothing; gender implications Message-ID: <256@kontron.UUCP> Date: Fri, 21-Jun-85 12:51:19 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.256 Posted: Fri Jun 21 12:51:19 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Jun-85 06:42:26 EDT References: <186@timeinc.UUCP> <252@spar.UUCP> <5697@ucla-cs.ARPA> <633@lll-crg.ARPA> <236@kontron.UUCP> <645@lll-crg.ARPA> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 38 > In article <236@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP writes: > >> Now, let's > >> play with figures. 1 in 4 women raped (I'm just taking this from what > >> I have seen on here). All the following is guesswork as to figures. > >> Say that each rapist has twenty victims. This makes 1 in 80 men a > >> rapist. This is assuming equal numbers of men and women, which I > >> realize is not the case, but it's close enough for wild guesswork. > >> > > > >More likely (from what I have read) each rapist about 200 victims. That > >would make 1 in 800 men a rapist. > > Seriously? Where have you read this? Can anyone else come up with some > figures on this? Also, of convicted rapists, what is the average number > each has committed? How does this compare? > >> I first read this figure in an article in newspaper some years ago --- they were quoting some psychiatrist back East. I've lost count of the number of rapists I've seen articles about in the newspaper who after conviction on dozens of rapes, the police indicated that they were unable to prove *hundreds* of rapes committed by the same criminal. > > > >Not lucky --- you've been in places where a rapist is not likely to > >attempt a crime for fear of being caught or identified. No one is > >claiming that provocative clothing causes the rapists to "lose control". > >It does seem likely that it may encourage a rapist to commit a rape > >if he doesn't think he will get caught. > > Actually, I thought that that was the basis of the "provocative clothing" > question..."Oh, seeing her dressed that way just made me lose control" > > > Muffy Read the ongoing debate on net.women, and you will see that no one (at least to my knowledge) has made this assertion --- but an awful lot of people keep claiming that I, among others, have made this assertion. It comes from people *not reading* before they react.