Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!csc From: csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) Newsgroups: net.women,can.politics Subject: Re: paying plumbers Message-ID: <15822@watmath.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Jul-85 10:57:08 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.15822 Posted: Thu Jul 18 10:57:08 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Jul-85 01:01:11 EDT References: <533@ttidcc.UUCP> <302@looking.UUCP> <2210@watcgl.UUCP> <15753@watmath.UUCP> <2222@watcgl.UUCP> Reply-To: csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.women:6468 can.politics:683 Summary: >> > Not at all necessary; what is necessary is that the decision be made >> > people/persons who can make such a determination independently and >> > without prejudice. Also it is possible that people == state can be >> > true you know. >> >> You show me one, just one, person that can make such a determination >> "independently and without prejudice". Such people simply do not >> exist. Any program whose correct functioning depends on their > > Instead of just one how about an example of many? Our justice system > depends *exactly* on being able to find people who can decide, > independently and without prejudice, a situation when presented > with the facts. These people are called juries. Not true. Juries and judges are the closet approximation to such a group of people that we have been able to find so far. They are human beings just like you and I, and are hence subject to their own prejudices and biases. It so happens that we have yet to find a different kind of institution that can effectively serve the same function as does our legal system, so we put up with it. As I said before, when, in different situations, other alternatives are available, these should be carefully considered. >> >John Chapman >> >> -bob atkinson > > John Chapman -bob atkinson