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From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer)
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Subject: Re: opportunities, women
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Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 11:43:09 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 19 11:43:09 1985
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> > In principle, yes.  In practice, one has to live with what one can get
> > (or with what one can't get rid of -- try firing a civil servant!).
> > The impossibility of administering a program properly is a valid argument
> > against instituting it.
> 
>  I would assume by this that you would like all government progams
>  abolished since they are all administered by the civil service.

Not quite, but you're close...

>  ...  Do you think EPFWOEV is any more difficult than
>  dealing with us crazed nicotine addicts?

Probably not.  And to judge by the number of people who still smoke in
elevators, that's not a good sign.

>  Well sorry to disappoint you but these measurements are made, and from
>  what I've heard and read they produce a good measure.

Yes, but a good measure of *what*?  Of the things that matter?  I doubt
it.  Ever read any of the discussions about the validity of IQ tests?
They have been subjected to far	more intense scrutiny than most of the
"measurements" that personnel departments are equipped to do, and have
generally been found wanting.

>  You seriously think it is just as important to serve burgers as to
>  keep the environment (to generalize) clean?

That would be a real apples-and-oranges comparison (anyone want to bet on
which way the Ministry of Economic Justice would resolve it?  I don't!),
but that wasn't my point.  My point was that the skills etc. involved
seem to be of the same order of magnitude.  Garbage disposal involves
more physical effort and perhaps some small element of danger; working
at a McDonalds' counter involves more customer contact.  Seems to me
that it about balances out.  Except that the garbagemen have a union, and
hence get paid several times what the poor McDonalds' counter slaves get.
Surely this is unjust.
-- 
				Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
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