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Subject: Re: Re: egg/chicken chicken/egg chigg/eckin
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Date: Mon, 5-Aug-85 03:07:35 EDT
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> Attitude problems of people who *incorrectly* believe they are being
> discriminated against should not be the concern of the government. 
> -- Jim Robinson

Reminded me of Orwell's 1984 -- you know, where They didn't want him to
just say he saw four fingers, They wanted him to really *believe* it.

They succeeded.  We have too.

Lots of disadvantaged people (such as women) have been beaten,
brainwashed, and bullied into believing they can't succeed.  They even
think other people like themselves can't succeed.  In fact, it's almost
essential for a diadvantaged's own self-image that s/he doesn't consider a
peer as more able to succeed, no?  I mean, if I thought that I, as a
member of disadvantaged class X, had equal opportunity to succeed, how
would I explain my current dismal existence?  Better to keep thinking I'm
disadvantaged, and better to not let any of my peers get ahead of me to
make me feel really foolish for thinking I'm disadvantaged.  I may
feel dismal for being disadvantaged, but that's not half as bad as what
I'd feel like if I "admitted" I now had equal chance to succeed.

Zap an organism until it's afraid to move forward, and then stop zapping.
It won't move forward.  It will even scream if you try to push it forward.
Do you stand back, wave your hands righteously and claim it is "incorrectly"
afraid of moving forward, because it has the wrong "attitude"?
-- 
        -IAN!  (Ian! D. Allen)      University of Waterloo