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Subject: Re: File Ownership
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Date: Sat, 27-Jul-85 20:28:34 EDT
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From: JERRY LEICHTER <leichter@yale-apvax>


    I'm using VMS V4.1 now and me being the crazy system manager that I am
    go helping others by using privs to consult with a user on a problem in
    their personal directory without using their account to relogin (all with
    permission, of course). Under VMS V1-3 when a user created a file, the
    file was owned by the UIC of the person who created the file. Lately,
    when I DIRECTORY/OWNER to clean up files I've created in someone elses
    directory, all the files are owned by the UIC of the owner of the direc-
    tory containing the new files.

	...

    						From The Great
    						     Zar
    						a.k.a. Dan Zirin
    						ZAR%XHMEIA@CIT-HAMLET

This is indeed a change in VMS Version 4.  A complete discussion of how file
ownership (and file protection) is determined can be found in section 4.4 of
the Guide to VAX/VMS System Security.  In particular, on page 4-39 we find:

	To find a default owner for a file, VAX/VMS considers the following
	sequence of choices and selects the first that yields and owner:

		The owner of a previously existing version of the file;

		The owner of the parent directory;

		The UIC of the file creator.

BTW, I know the VAX/VMS Master Index has its problems, but I found this one on
my first try:  Page Index-118, entry "File owner, how established by default".
There is SOME use to all that paper stuck between the orange binders! :-)

							-- Jerry
						a.k.a.	-- Jerry
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