Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-lymph!arndt From: arndt@lymph.DEC Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: \"Words mean what I pay them to mean . . .\" Message-ID: <3213@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 16:49:45 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.3213 Posted: Fri Jul 19 16:49:45 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Jul-85 04:00:32 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 39 Rich Rosen (my buddy) claims the human fetus is a "Parasite" in the woman's body!!! Since the Fetus grows from a cell (the egg remember??) of the woman's own body (ah gee, + the cute little sperm) HOW THE HECK CAN IT BE A PARASITE??. Is my liver a 'parasite'????? Ans. It is if it 'fits' my preconceived (har har) view of abortion - which itself stems from a political/religious world view. Just thought I'd ask. I know it won't do any good. Weren't Jews called Parasites Rich?? For just about the same reasons. Prove Jews are human they would say. The Jews kept saying, "Don't we bleed when you cut us?". "No, you're different", was the answer. The Nazis killed SUBHUMANS! ONLY. It was a highly honorable thing they did, in their eyes. Moral. Based on rights. Look, you guys (and gals), medical science is showing us more and more every day(Fetal development) that human life is a continuum from conception to death! That's facts!! And some on this net say it's not human until it's born! And Rich raises the absolutely stupid idea that it's not human because it can't survive outside the mother's body! What trash! What evil. First, it's only a matter of technology that it can't survive - we can now 'save' children at a very much earlier stage of fetal development outside the mother and the science is moving to an earlier and earlier age! Yes? Besides, the question of whether or not it can survive without help HAS NOTHING LOGICAL TO DO WITH THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT IS HUMNAN!!!! A fish out of water is not a fish??Can Rich survive without his modem? Was he not 'Rich' before he got his modem for his birthday? Look, ultimately we none of us survive outside our mother's womb. Some last fora few seconds, minutes, others for 70 years. Survival as a test for humanness is BOGUS!! Abortion is murder or murder has no meaning. It is the causing of the death of a human being for whatever reason not balanced against another life - not another quality of life!! Rich is fond of showing us again and again how reasonable and logical he is - heis an antique in that he is a victim of the failed philosophical viewpoint called Positivism - but his preachments don't stand up to reason. Keep chargin' Ken Arndt