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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: \"Words mean what I pay them to mean . . .\"
Message-ID: <430@mit-vax.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 20-Jul-85 07:37:00 EDT
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Posted: Sat Jul 20 07:37:00 1985
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In article <3213@decwrl.UUCP> arndt@lymph.DEC writes:
>
>Rich Rosen (my buddy) claims the human fetus is a "Parasite" in the woman's
>body!!!  Since the Fetus grows from a cell (the egg remember??) of the woman's
>own body (ah gee, + the cute little sperm) HOW THE HECK CAN IT BE A
>PARASITE??

Cancerous tumors (like the one in your brain, Ken) grow from a person's
own body. Guess what? (I hate to keep a moron in suspense for long)
They're considered PARASITIC GROWTHS.

>Is my liver a 'parasite'? Ans. It is if it 'fits' my preconceived (har
>har) view  of abortion - which itself stems from a
>political/religious world view.

Fine. Have it removed. At least I won't waste my time arguing your right
to do so.

>Weren't Jews called Parasites Rich??  For just about the same reasons.

What? They couldn't live outside of wombs? I beg to differ...
 
>The Nazis killed SUBHUMANS!

They missed one. However, if they ever come back into power, I'll make
sure they get your address.

>That's facts!!

You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and bit your genitals off.

>Rich raises the absolutely stupid idea that it's not human because it can't
>survive outside the mother's body!  What trash!  What evil.  First, it's only
>a matter of technology that it can't survive.

No, it's a matter of nature. You just can't keep a two months old embryo
alive to the point of maturity and until you can, your argument loses.

>Look, ultimately we none of us survive outside
>our mother's womb.  Some last fora few seconds,
>minutes, others for 70 years.  Survival as a test for humanness
>is BOGUS!!

You're right. From now on, we will no longer use the term "abortion".
From now on, we will say that every woman has the right to say "it's
time to give birth!" At that point a skilled Arndtologist will come in
and carefully extract the "baby" from the mother's womb. A birthday
party will be arranged for those who last more than 30 seconds...

>Abortion is murder or murder has no meaning.  It is the causing of the death
>of a human being for whatever reason not balanced against another life - not
>another quality of life!!

Actually, murder never had anything to do with "balanced against another
life". Murder is murder. You're just wimping out because you think that
people won't jump on you with the old "what if the mother's life is in
danger?" line. Well I don't buy it. You're just a spinelss cretin.

>Rich is fond of showing us again and again how
>reasonable and logical he is - he is an

As opposed to you who just makes an ass out of himself.

>antique in that he is a victim of the failed philosophical viewpoint
>called Positivism - but his preachments don't stand up to reason.

Look who's talking.

>Ken "barefoot and pregnant" Arndt


-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
"I always try to avoid cliche's like the plague!"
        -Rev. Wang Zeep