Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!flink From: flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Are Laws what is really needed? Message-ID: <1001@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 20:48:25 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.1001 Posted: Thu Jul 25 20:48:25 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 00:12:29 EDT References: <509@scc.UUCP> Reply-To: flink@maryland.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Distribution: net Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 20 Keywords: other -- repeat, OTHER -- dogmatists In article <509@scc.UUCP> steiny@scc.UUCP (Don Steiny) writes: >... Anti-abortionists promote legislation to prohibit >abortion because of their inability to convince people of the >merits of their arguments. "Anti-discriminationists promote legislation ... because of their inability to convince people ...". Seriously folks, similar arguments were heard a few decades ago, but we all (except libertarians and a few other dogmatists) reject that line of argument now. And part of the reason discrimination came to be seen as wrong was the existence of the laws. Of course, a lot of convincing people has to occur before the anti-abortionists could get any laws passed -- fortunately. I hope that some convincing will occur on both sides and they meet somewhere near the middle (somewhere near MY position! :->). Convincing is important, but so is passing laws, at least once a critical level of consensus is reached. I won't say what that critical point is, but it's definitely NOT unanimity, and probably not even close. --Paul V Torek, author of "How to Win Enemies and Infuriate People"