Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpm.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!ihnp4!ihlpm!cher From: cher@ihlpm.UUCP (cherepov) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Torek's SECOND ANNUAL CONCLUSIVE ARGUMENT :-> Message-ID: <360@ihlpm.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 10:06:07 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpm.360 Posted: Tue Jul 23 10:06:07 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 17:08:09 EDT References: <789@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1012@noscvax.UUCP> <915@umcp-cs.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 21 Xref: tektronix net.abortion:01821 > > I.e., as long as we have the separate words "teenager" and "adult" we > can legitimately protect adults' lives and not teenagers', or vice > versa? I don't buy it. But of course you do not give equal status even to these two (despite of the fact that "teenager" and "adult" actually overlap a lot more then "fetus" and "person" notions). As for smaller kids, they don't have too many rights - their old folks can do all kinds of nasty things to them: e.g. bring them up as communists or anti-abortionists!! Someone some time ago suggested that for fetuses possibility to hatch (develop) could be seen not as automatic right, but as an option of their parents (mother). I have yet to see a good refutation of that idea... > --Paul V Torek, master icon claster Mike Cherepov "Master Blaster runs the Bartertown"