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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: \"Words mean what I pay them to mean . . .\"
Message-ID: <471@mit-vax.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 27-Jul-85 12:33:50 EDT
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Posted: Sat Jul 27 12:33:50 1985
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Reply-To: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA
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Summary: 

Matthew Rosenblatt writes:
>1)  It's not an absolute right.  The states can ban abortions entirely
>    (with the usual emergency exceptions) after the sixth month of
>    pregnancy, in order to protect

I don't think we should confuse the state's law making power with
absolute rights. In Russia, you are not allowed to speak your mind on
certain subjects, does that mean it's not an absolute right? In America,
you can't smoke marajauna. Almost everyone I know does and most of them
feel the ought to be able to if they want. One used to be able to, you
know. Marajauna is a native American weed. What do you think was in the
Indian's peace pipes anyway? An awful lot of people think that
antimarajauna legislation is silly, and certainly is hasn't stopped
anybody from smoking. Just because the states can illegalize something
doesn't mean it's not your right or that it's an evil thing.
(A request that marajauna legality flames go to net.politics)


>Anti-abortion people are looking to reorder the precedence of these 
>conflicting rights...

SOME anti-abortion people.


>3)  The father's right to procreate (a Constitutional right -- I can
>    cite cases) is subordinate to the woman's right to remove the
>    fetus from her body.
(on another list...)
>4)  The father's right to procreate

This really cracks me up! "I'm sorry I raped your daughter, Matt... I
was just excersising my right to procreate and I couldn't find anybody
else. By the way! When I get out of jail, I'll be wanting my baby back
so she'd better keep it healthy. Thanks... see you in five years."

The whole idea that a male's right to produce offspring is higher than
the female's NOT to it so fascist I cannot find a less flame-oriented
way to respond!

-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
Wang Zeep:"Lord Fred, how can I show them you are the True God?"

Lord Fred:"Because I said I am."

Wang Zeep:"Seriously."

Lord Fred:"Look, it works for every other religion."