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From: tdn@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA (Thomas Newton)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: \"Words mean what I pay them to mean . . .\"
Message-ID: <399@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA>
Date: Sun, 28-Jul-85 04:56:51 EDT
Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-s.399
Posted: Sun Jul 28 04:56:51 1985
Date-Received: Wed, 31-Jul-85 08:19:29 EDT
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI
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>> And if you do believe so strongly in this premise, why did you spend so
>> much time trying to convince us of a falsehood ("the fetus is not alive")
>> instead of addressing the main issues?

> Actually, I don't remeber [sic] Rich making this assertion.  You keep
> claiming he does.  Maybe if you listened to what Rich really said, you'd
> learn something.

I can't believe that you're actually claiming this, given the number of
messages that he posted.  But you made a mistake.  You didn't wait long
enough for all of his messages to have disappeared from our VAX:

|    From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
|    Newsgroups: net.abortion
|    Subject: Re: Fetus = living organism (?????)
|    Date: Fri, 12-Jul-85 10:13:07 EDT
|    Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week
|    Lines: 34
|
|    ...
|    >  My grandmother would
|    >   cease to function if we stopped caring for her -- and I'll beat you
|    >   silly if you call her a fetus.
|
|    Pardon me, but I assume your grandmother is and has been alive.  A fetus
|    is not.
|    ...

I'm sure that any other site that has a longer backlog of messages could post
more examples.

                                        -- Thomas Newton
                                           Thomas.Newton@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA