Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site h-sc1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!h-sc1!desjardins From: desjardins@h-sc1.UUCP (marie desjardins) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: My perspective. Message-ID: <478@h-sc1.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Jul-85 14:40:14 EDT Article-I.D.: h-sc1.478 Posted: Mon Jul 29 14:40:14 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Jul-85 22:30:55 EDT References: <28676@lanl.ARPA> Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center Lines: 49 In response to Steve Smith's article: (I have quoted only twice; I think most of my arguments stand on their own, although they were written as a rebuttal). How can you say pro-choicers don't feel as strongly about the issue as pro-lifers? It is much, much, MUCH more than just "government intervention." It is taking away the basic human need of dignity and the ability to do what one wants with ones own life. It is taking away so much of what women have gained in their fight for equality. I doubt very strongly that I will ever have an abortion, and yet every time I think that right may be taken away, not just from me, but from all women in every situation, a piece of me dies. And if the pro-lifers win this fight, I will be devastated. (And I doubt I am the most emotional of the pro-choicers, or even close to being the most emotional.) To address just a few of your points (although I am sure I will never convince you of anything, but I have to try): No, a woman is not INVITING pregnancy. She is risking pregnancy. A woman who seeks an abortion is not "viewing the issue as a 'responsibility' of society to 'unburden' them from the biological facts of repro- duction." She is merely claiming her right to do what she wishes with her body. It is NOT society's responsibility, which is exactly the point. Society's only responsibility is (to put it mildly) to stay the hell out of her life. Also, the only 100% effective methods of birth control are abstinence and the pill. I will not even argue the issue of abstinence with you. The pill can be quite dangerous for some people. ALL forms of birth control have their problems, and all are fallible. And I most certainly will not agree with you that all women should use birth control or accept the consequences until this society takes a stronger stand on requiring men to take responsibility for birth control. Lastly, I don't think that anyone in their right minds uses abortion simply as a method of birth control. Women agonize over their choice, but it must be THEIR choice! It is a last resort. I don't think that anybody is encouraged to use abortion as a method of birth control, but I don't think that tormenting those who do need to have an abortion (yes, I said NEED) is any solution. Education would probably help, and open-mindedness in parents would certainly help, but these things don't happen overnight. And yes, I agree with you, no woman should be forced to have an abortion! If she chooses not to, it must be the father's responsibility to help financially (and preferably emotionally, but that's almost certainly impossible). See discussion above of men's responsibility for birth control. marie desjardins park