Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site h-sc1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!h-sc1!desjardins From: desjardins@h-sc1.UUCP (marie desjardins) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Definitions of murder Message-ID: <485@h-sc1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 21:01:52 EDT Article-I.D.: h-sc1.485 Posted: Tue Jul 30 21:01:52 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 20:52:26 EDT References: <3213@decwrl.UUCP> <1031@noscvax.UUCP> Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center Lines: 22 > > There is no doubt that abortion is the killing of something, but that > does not make it murder. Murder is a term which only has meaning in a > given social-legal context. We kill cattle by the millions, soldiers > and civilians during a war, theives, and other killers. This is very interesting. Why is it justifiable to kill soldiers and civilians during a war? I would say to protect our (or someone's) way of life, which *we* feel is "right" (note emphasis and quotes -- this is a decision that "we" (whoever that may be -- nobody asks me these things :-) ) made). Why would somebody destroy a fetus (note: I'm not convinced that this is killing, but I'm addressing the quote above)? I would say to protect their way of life. Why is an individual's way of life any less important than a country's way of life (or culture)? I think it would be interesting to hear some discussion on this distinction, but I have a feeling that it's all going to eventually come back to "yes, but why can't criminals protect their way of life?" and degenerate from there. Perhaps we can try to avoid that this time, and just focus on a single question... marie desjardins park